Ep 83: Martijn Wijsmuller and Paul Veen, co-founders at Ask Phill


We discuss pivoting from SaaS to agency, being early adopters of Headless, the importance of goal alignment between client and agency, the advantages of starting a brand as agency founders, why Shopify is incredibly hard to beat and the pros and cons of sharing a bed with your co founder.

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